Thursday, October 15, 2009

Thoughts about the catholic and orthodoxy

The catholic and orthodox church have claim to be established as early as 33 A.D. . The orthodox church according to the orthodoxy owns the actual ark of the covenant which is guarded in an eastern orthodox cathedral which only one priest has access to the Ark. I truly respect the orthodox and the catholic church and believe that many of the confirmed are really the holy church. However I do not believe in the ritualistic worship and fellowship having as much importance to the gospel as the orthodox and catholic church believe. I am baptised roman catholic. I was confirmed by a jesuit priest back in the early 90's. after a year or so I didnt like that the roman catholic church seemed to not believe in the same kind of freedom. Atleast the institutes beliefs in vows of celebacy and other rites I dont believe are really the same fellowship that paul instructed us about ministry. There are other catholic priesthoods that are not roman and do allow priests to marry ect. However at the time I felt like the Lord was leading me away from any established ministry. I asked an italian priest to pray for my freedom to come and go from ministry as will. He prayed for my freedom.
The bible tells us that no man is good it is only Gods good that we do good. No man is righteous. To praise no man. Yet the orthodoxy and catholic church highly praise and exhort the works of who they call the saints. This praise and near worship of mother mary and those they call saints is near idolatry. It tells us God is a jealous God in the bible. We seek the Fathers forgiveness through Jesus Christ. Only Jesus is the express of the Father . Only Jesus had entered the Holy of Holy's and accomplished what no other flesh had. The Father had to become man because the works of all man had fallen short of the Glory of God. We have to worship the father not even Jesus. God in know way wanted the works we do in the name of Jesus Christ to be accredited to our own good. The whole point of the cross was so that man was to be crucified with christ and conformed to his image in humbleness and meekness. To suffer as christ had suffered and for the Glory of the Lord not the Glory of man. To praise a saint and worship their faith would be contradicting the word of God which tells us that it is
Jesus Christ not our name we can pray to the father. We can't pray to angels or worship them how the saints or mother mary.
The wicken and occult pray to and worship Angels. There is scriptures that tell us not to worship angels. We should praise the Father because of the gift of his son not praise the son. We worship the Father not his servants. If not the angels then how mary or any of the saints. Werent they only servants of God and sinners saved by grace not even as Holy as his angels. Only Jesus ascended to the throne highest . That was because he was the Father having made himself man to fulfill his promise to Adam and to all his prophets. Popes dont accomplish anything except that christ had accomplished all. There is not church office here that is really Gods Holy place. NO cathedral made by hands is truly as holy as any body that believes in Jesus Christ. God is in us not in the vatican. We shouldnt honor icons or symbols as the Power of God. We should recognize christ from the works in the spirit from our fasting and prayer from the fruits of his Love in our lives not from ritiualistic worship of icons and adoration of distastefull art that holds imaginations even of what christ might of appeared to look like. I am not a brunette and dont like to think of christ as a wretched long haired dirty man. most of those pictures of christ seem offensive and really dishonoring that christ was the express of God his very faultless image that no artists could really understand or draw a picture fine enough to resemble.

Revelations
19:10 So I threw myself down at his feet to worship him, but he said, “Do not do this! I am only a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony about Jesus. Worship God, for the testimony about Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” 22:9 But he said to me, “Do not do this! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets, and with those who obey the words of this book. Worship God!”

Colossians 2:18

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,


Romans 8:7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,


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Colossians 2:23 These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence

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