Thursday, October 15, 2009

Men and Woman praying together

In the passages of the book of adam and eve . Adam and Eve were making vows to God to pray and fast. They went into water to pray one seperate from the other where they could not see each other in a cave. They were tempted again a second time by satan. Their prayers didnt avail.

In the dialogue of the savior the passage below there is a passage about men and woman praying. Judas , Mary , and Peter were told men and woman should not pray in a place together. Judas was told goto a place were there is no woman.
Its an interesting fragment that may be a mystery to the Lords instructions that could help us to understand the prayers of faith and the work of the Lord Jesus Christ.






CHAP. XXXII.


Adam and Eve go into the water to pray.
AND Adam and Eve remained in the Cave of Treasures until the seventh
day; they neither ate of the fruit of the earth, nor drank water.
2 And when it dawned on the eighth day, Adam said to Eve, "O Eve, we
prayed God to give us somewhat from the garden, and He sent His angels
who brought us what we had desired.
3 "But now, arise, let us go to the sea of water we saw at first,
and let us stand in it, praying that God will again be favourable to us
and take us back to the garden; or give us something; or that He will
give us comfort in some other land than this in which we are."
4 Then Adam and Eve came out of the cave, went and stood on the
border of the sea in which they had before thrown themselves, and Adam
said to Eve:--
5 "Come, go down into this place, and come not out of it until the
end of thirty days, when I shall come to thee. And pray to God with
fervent heart and a sweet voice, to forgive us.
6 "And I will go to another place, and go down into it, and do like thee."
7 Then Eve went down into the water, as Adam had commanded her. Adam
also went down into the water; and they stood praying; and besought the
Lord to forgive them their offence, and to restore them to their former
state.
8 And they stood thus praying, unto the end of the five-and-thirty days.

CHAP. XXXIII.


Satan falsely promises the "bright light!'
BUT Satan, the hater of all good, sought them in the cave, but found them not, although he searched diligently for them.
2 But he found them standing in the water praying and thought within
himself, "Adam and Eve are thus standing in that water beseeching God
to forgive them their transgression,
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and to restore them to their former estate, and to take them from under my hand.
3 "But I will deceive them so that they shall come out of the water, and not fulfil their vow."
4 Then the hater of all good, went not to Adam, but be went to Eve,
and took the form of an angel of God, praising and rejoicing, and said
to her--
5 "Peace be unto thee! Be glad and rejoice! God is favourable unto
you, and He sent me to Adam. I have brought him the glad tidings of
salvation, and of his being filled with bright light as he was at first.
6 "And Adam, in his joy for his restoration, has sent me to thee,
that thou come to me, in order that I crown thee with light like him.
7 "And he said to me, 'Speak unto Eve; if she does not come with
thee, tell her of the sign when we were on the top of the mountain; how
God sent His angels who took us and brought us to the Cave of
Treasures; and laid the gold on the southern side; incense, on the
eastern side; and myrrh on the western side.' Now come to him."
8 When Eve heard these words from him, she rejoiced greatly. And
thinking that Satan's appearance was real, she came out of the sea.
9 He went before, and she followed him until they came to Adam. Then Satan hid himself from her, and she saw him no more.
10 She then came and stood before Adam, who was standing by the water and rejoicing in God's forgiveness.
11 And as she called to him, he turned round, found her there and
wept when he saw her, and smote upon his breast; and from the
bitterness of his grief, he sank into the water.
12 But God looked upon him and upon his misery, and upon his being
about to breathe his last. And the Word of God came from heaven, raised
him out of the water, and said unto him, "Go up the high bank to Eve."
And when he came up to Eve he said unto her, "Who said to thee 'come
hither'?"
13 Then she told him the discourse of the angel who had appeared unto her and had given her a sign.
14 But Adam grieved, and gave her to know it was Satan. He then took her and they both returned to the cave.
15 These things happened to them the second time they went down to the water, seven days after their coming out of the garden.
16 They fasted in the water thirty-five days; altogether forty-two days since they had left the garden.

DIALOGUE OF THE SAVIOR


Mary said, "Of what sort is that mustard seed? Is it something from heaven or is it something from earth?"
The
Lord said, "When the Father established the cosmos for himself, he left
much over from the Mother of the All. Therefore, he speaks and he
acts."


Judas said, "You have told us this out of the mind of truth. When we pray, how should we pray?"
The Lord said, "Pray in the place where there is no woman."
Matthew
said, "'Pray in the place where there is no woman,' he tells us,
meaning 'Destroy the works of womanhood,' not because there is any
other manner of birth, but because they will cease giving birth."
Mary said, "They will never be obliterated."
The Lord said, "Who knows that they will not dissolve and ... [2 lines missing]?"
Judas
said to Matthew, "The works of womanhood will dissolve [...] the
governors will [...]. Thus will we become prepared for them."
The
Lord said, "Right. For do they see you? Do they see those who receive
you? Now behold! A true Word is coming forth from the Father to the
abyss, in silence with a flash of lightning, giving birth. Do they see
it or overpower it? But you are even more aware of the path, this one,
before either angel or authority has [...] Rather, it belongs to the
Father and the Son, because they are both a single [...]. And you will
go via the path which you have known. Even if the governors become
huge, they will not be able to reach it. But listen - I tell you that
it is difficult even for me to reach it!"
Mary said to the Lord, "When the works [...] which dissolve a work."
The Lord said, "Right. For you know [...] if I dissolve [...] will go to his place."


Judas said, "How is the spirit apparent?"
The Lord said, "How is the sword apparent?"
Judas said, "How is the light apparent?"
The Lord said, "[...] in it forever."


Judas said, "Who forgives the works of whom? The works which [...] the cosmos [...] who forgives the works."
The
Lord said, "Who [...]? It behooves whoever has understood the works to
do the will of the Father. And as for you, strive to rid yourselves of
anger and jealousy, and to strip yourselves of your [...], and not to
...
(next 18 lines virtually indecipherable)
... he will live forever. And I say to you [...], so that you will not lead your spirits and your souls into error."

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